Discussion Main / Tropes

I suggest indexing "Test of true love" as a trope. It's an ancient Western trope that poses to a character the test-question: "If your lover were physically repulsive to you, would you love him/her anyhow?" A love that passes this test is essentially spiritual rather than carnal, and remains "pure" or "innocent" despite erotic indulgence.

Traditionally, this test was posed by means of a magical enchantment that makes someone physically repulsive (as in the fairy-tale, "The Frog Prince" and "Beauty and the Beast," or in Chaucer's "Wife of Bath's Tale"); that enchantment is lifted as a reward for passing the test.

However, in modern variations, this test has been posed by more realistic means, e.g., by cross-dressing: for example, in Young Americans a straight guy falls for a cross-dressing girl despite believing her to be a guy, and is rewarded by her revelation of her true gender.

This trope seems to have distinctively Western cultural premises, including mind-body dualism that makes it good to love someone for his or her soul but bad to love someone for his or her body. It seeks a loophole in the Christian view that sex is sinful; it seeks a return to Eden, in which sex was innocent. It would be interesting to learn whether, and to what extent, this trope may occur in Asia. If it is truly alien to Asian cultures, then Asians are unlikely to recognize it without help, so all the more reason to index it as a trope.

What are the rules with who are Nice Guys/Girls and who are Jerks with Hearts of Gold? You're like labelling so many characters who are mostly nice as "Jerks with Hearts of Gold" when you could be labelling them as "Beware the Nice Ones", like Star Butterfly for instance. I'm confused. WHAT ARE THE RULES?

I don't know where to post this but I think an intriguing inverse to Dramatically/Comically Missing the Point is Dramatically Getting the Point. It happens most frequently in comedies but it also occurs in dramas as well. Someone will usually tell an outlandish story but the listener actually is not distracted by the lunacy, action, or any other details to ignore the more pressing point buried underneath all that happens.

Examples: Shrek - Donkey starts flying, most people are marveling that he can fly. The guard, however, recognizes the more important thing that he can talk.

Smallville P.S.A

If someone tells you to skip seasons 1-3 please do not be a follower. Seasons 1-3 are the highest rated for a reason. It's when all 3 main characters are friends, and it build their relationships and the dangers they face. If someone tells you to skip seasons 1-3 it's either because they don't like Lana, Lex, their friendships with Clark and are trying to make you not like them as well. They also may really like with Chloe, who is pining after Clark in season 1, but tries to find out Clark's secret in 2, and teams up with Lionel Luthor in 3. Please don't let their biases stop you from enjoying the highest rated seasons.

Is there any character in any work (that you know of) who does not follow some trope?

do we have a name for that situation in every courthouse episode/scene where people meet in the bathroom and have a awkward moment, trade suspicious eyes and throw subtle shade?

New Phrases & Tropes

___________________________________________________________

Is this the guy who they're pitting me up against?

Of course you know this means war!

Due to the...

I am working on an English project and need help finding tropes in music videos. Who could help me. The music video I need to find the tropes for is Joyner Lucas I'm Sorry.

For the list of all the tropes, the numbers are missing........WHY? If the list is in alaphabetical order,it should go, # A B C D etc.

I think the Graphical tropes index should be with the main indexes (or at least other indexes), because presentation is an important part of a work. Thoughts?

This may sound crazy, but can we disambiguate the You Gotta Have Blue Hair trope? It always pisses me off when someone uses it to describe Pink Hair.

What and where is the first trope posted on this website?

Is there a trope for:

• " Don't tell me how to live my life, Dad!" or • "Umm ... getting too specific, you're losing us"

Example: Bob's Burgers: The Belchies:

Jimmy Pesto dances Dirty Dancing and at the climax screams out "Don't tell me not to dance, DAD!!"

I know I've heard "Don't tell me not/how to ___, Parent/Guardian"

I also know that there's instances of getting an audience and getting them riled up but then seemingly going on a tangent when people finally start listening and WHOSLAUGHINGNOWMOMM!!

Anyone?

I want to make an anime about a yakuza in love with a short fancy like a girl.

I do want it to be a magic show. https://wallpapersite.com/anime/anime-girl-witch-magic-4k-4928.html , , and https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fairytailfanon/images/1/10/Rika_using_Ice_Magic.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140505030134 thats what i want it to look like.

if you want to msg me i dont come often so https://discord.gg/DFq6EXh

Question to anyone out there. Could someone consider Beowulf to be a "Marty Stu", without being self-insert fan fiction? Because he's literally perfect in every single possible way, having almost no flaws whatsoever. Then he dies in a heroic manner at the end of the Saga, killing the dragon that hoarded gold, giving the spoils away to the common-folk of the Geat kingdom.

Hey guys I was just wondering if anyone remembers that old cartoon animated kids tv show that used to come on later at night I think it was about ants and they could talk and stuff and one ant was the head any had this screen and I think they went out to help kids , please help me if u know I really need to know the answer I've searched ages and ages and can't find anything

Why do flashbacks need an in-story explanation in Western/American Stories but not in Japanese?

In The Force Awakens, Rey finds a lightsabers that triggers a flashback. However, if you watch Naruto/One Piece or most animes that flashbacks are part of HOW the story is told and do not need a justification for existing in the story.

Every folder except "other categories" has it's own index page, there should just be links to them instead of the redundant folders which are missing quite a lot of the tropes present on their respective subpages. All that would be needed is to go through and move anything here that's missing from the sub-indexes.

EDIT: Also, looking over the discussions below, maybe this should be renamed to "Trope Indexes" or something similar to avoid confusion with the Trope page and it's info that is useful for people new to the site.

Should "Whatever Happened to the Mouse" be added for Penny Arcade Rain Slicked Precipice of Darkness Episode 3 involving the Player Protagonist. Or does the third game adequately explain what happened to the character. Or is Put on the Bus the same thing as whatever happened to the mouse

I believe that I Have No Son! should be split into separate tropes, because there are a lot of examples with "I Have No Father" or "I Have No Brother" out there.

Is it okay if I make a Self-Demonstrating Article for Cartman from South Park?

Is there a name for the trope when the character is both a Jerkass and an idiot? Homer Simpson is an example because he's both mean and stupid.

"(though some have banned it; one of the more recent bannings being Connecticut 's )"

^^ What does this have to do with the definition of the trope?

Question: I was looking at the boss battle pages and wanted to know where to put a really hard boss I found - the issue is that he's A) the final boss of a raid, B) the raid is a new raid and therefore he's not a "wake up call".

The boss is 16 MAN HARD MODE "The Terror from Beyond" in SWTOR. Interestingly enough, on 8 man he would not work for the "that one boss" as the fight is only really really tough on 16 man. Details: out of 500,000 players only 4 guilds have beat him on HM 16 man.

Edit: While he is a bit of a giant (flea) creature, his Operation is named after him so he's not that much of a surprise.

Hello there, TV Tropes. I was wondering if anyone agrees that Zombie Panic in Wonderland (For Wiiware) deserves its own Tropes page? I can accredit quite a few tropes with it, but since I'm new here, I'm not sure I know how to start a new page altogether. And, this game simply Needs More Love. So, any advice or help would be wonderful.

Question: About how many tropes are there, total? My guess would be >300, but one can never be sure. Can't count it myself because i'd easily lose count, and my attention span is eratic... and also reading the tropes themselves would be too tempting.

One idea I've been thinking of as a possible new trope.

In Mes en Scene a setting can be a character in it's own right just as important as the characters. If we can accept it we can consider the real city or town could be an actor unto itself that plays an imaginary setting.

I got the idea after reading someone pointing out all of the mistakes the producers made about Seattle and Tacoma in Ten Things I Hate About You when in reality Tacoma and Seattle play the imaginary Northwestern City after all the way they pan the camera the high school (played by a school in Tacoma) is on the top of Queen Anne Hill in Seattle.

Other examples I would give for what I'm trying to get at is how Habyfield in Derbyshire plays Royston Vasey in League of Gentleman, Rosalyn Washington plays Cicily Alaska in Northern Exposure and Portmeirion in Wales plays the Village in The Prisoner.

Thoughts?

There's something peculiar in Babylon 5 that happens several times. I tried to find it in those numerous tropes but couldn't. I wonder if you guys have a name for this "manouver". :)

On several occasions, the show cheats about perfect speech or a set of words with extraordinary results. However, we never get to hear these speeches and words. It feels like cheating. :)

Examples:

1. In Coming of Shadows, Refa has had a group of linguistic specialists working on a speech for weeks. He claims it's perfect. Londo is supposed to present it but due to turn of events, he never gets a chance.

2. In Geometry of Shadows, Technomage Elric claims that they know "Fourteen words to make someone fall in love with you forever, seven words to make them go without pain." He never reveals those words.

3. In Paragon of Animals, we hear this really touching and heart-warming Declaration of Principles for the new Alliance, written by G'kar, and they really make a big deal out of it. However, at the end of the episodes, G'kar presents Sheridan a new version, saying that he had improved it. Sheridan takes one very short glance at it and utters in amazement: "It IS better." We never get to hear the new version.

How do I create a new trope here? Cause I can think of one that applies to several things I seen...

I'd like to suggest indexing a new term "Phantom Penis." (I've also heard it called glass, ghost, or invisible penis.) A phantom penis is usually seen in hentai. This is where the penis is not drawn yet penetration is fully shown. The word penis is also censored while references to other genitalia is still allowed.

The most prominent game I've seen to do this is Tottemo Pheremone.

WARNING: Example images are graphic. NSFW!

http://www.archive-hentai.com/tottemo-pheromone-cg-series.html

One of the things about phantom penis is that it's subjective at times too. The penis can be visible so long as it isn't obstructing view of the vagina or anus. So it isn't a censorship method, but stylistic choice.

Over the past few weeks, I've had the persistent problem with this site (in the latest Firefox) that pages using non-ANSI characters such as em-dash (a very common character with a code somewhere in the 8000s) display garbage instead of the character. This seems to have been caused by a change in the page template, such that the header declares the wrong encoding (ISO-8859-1 instead of UTF-8). Forcing FF to ignore the encoding used in the Content-Type, and use UTF-8, fixes the problem; but it's tedious to have to do this for every page load, so could we please have a server-side fix?